Saturday, November 14, 2009


UPDATED IN PAPER - 11/14/09 8:10am

11/14/09 8:08 am - I am Reposting this - Because there were TWO UPDATES on it - IN the Paper/article. UPDATES ARE AT THE BOTTOM


Doctors learned why Ukrainians dying!

All victims of the virus in Bukovyna (22 people at the age of 20-40) died not from bilateral pneumonia, as was previously thought, but as a result of viral distress syndrome, i.e the total destruction of the lungs.

At first the cardio-pulmonary insufficiency comes, and consequently cardiogenic shock is developed, which causes cardiac standstill and death, told the chief of bureau of the Chernivtsi regional forensic examination, doctor of science, Professor Viktor Bachynsky, UNIAN reports.

"During a bilateral pneumonia some morphological picture is observed. As of data of deaths, there is no such morphological picture. The virus, which causes death, is very aggressive, it does not strike the trachea, but immediately gets into the lungs and causes heavy swelling and solid hemorrhage. Mixed types of parainfluenza and influenza A/N1N1 lead to this state. This is a very toxic strain, which has not yet answered to the treatment of the Ministry of Health", - said Viktor Bachinsky.

According to him, there is a need to change the treatment standards, because those which were used earlier, resulted in nothing – doctors failed to save all people infected with the virus in the reanimation. The belt ventilators did not help also.

For this reason a group of professors of Chernivtsi Medical University appealed to the Ministry of Health and National Security and Defense Council with a demand to review the standards of treatment of patients in Bukovyna. Scientists-morphologists sent to Kyiv reports, studies and analysis of critically ill patients and people who died of virus.

Viktor Bachinsky noted that the virus is extremely toxic, it is able to penetrate not only through respiratory apparatus but also through the eyes. Chernovtsy scientists recommend in any case use masks and even wear protective spectacles. An important condition to prevent deterioration of the situation is also the observance of quarantine regime.

Can someone explain - is this the pneumonic plague - what is it?

I will do more searches about this - immediately!! So they are saying the virus CAN PENETRATE THE EYES ALSO?? What IS IT THEN? ALSO - I really Question the Official Numbers they release now of the Dead etc.


06:19 p.m. Ministry of Health does not consider it is necessary to publish data on the number of confirmed cases of influenza pandemic in the laboratory. "Ukraine is in the A/N1N1 influenza pandemic, and now it does not matter how many of these cases will be detected, we should treat everybody equally," - said Deputy Minister of Health Vasyl Lazoryshynets at a briefing on Friday.

Vasyl Lazoryshynets also reminded that in Ukraine since the beginning of the epidemic 1,25 mn people became ill with pandemic influenza, influenza and acute respiratory diseases, including 61,000 people - over the past day, which is by 8,500 less than the previous day. 65,615 people are treated in hospital, including 392 - in the reanimation, 60 have artificial pulmonary ventilation.

Since the beginning of the epidemic in Ukraine 239 people died, including 26 people during the last day, most of them are in the Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Lviv and Ternopil Regions. He also said that according to the laboratory data, 14 people died of pandemic influenza, Interfax-Ukraine reports.

06:25 p.m. To date, swine flu in Ukraine is dominant, but not the only strain, said the head of mission of the World Health Organization in Ukraine Yukka Pukkila.

Yukka Pukkila said that the strain of pandemic virus is detected in 22 cases of 34 samples sent to the control laboratory, which collaborates with WHO in London.

At the same time, Yukka Pukkila stressed that, besides Californian flu in Ukraine there is a large number of varieties of acute respiratory viral diseases and many other viruses that infect the respiratory system, reports Liga.


  1. I would say that you could catch viruses through the ears as well. Anyone with kids who struggled with ear infections and has taken them to the doctor would have been shown how the nose, throat, ears are connected.

  2. Contagion of viruses through the eyes is not brand new news. Commercials made by governments long before and even now warn people: Cough and sneeze into your sleeves, wash your hands frequently and avoid touching your mouth, nose and EYES. ANY flu virus can survive on hard surfaces for up to 48 hours and on water droplets for longer. Such viruses can enter the body through normal orifices. And YES, the eyes are one of those orifices and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.

  3. As for the posters questions about whether or not this is plague, shows your lack of understanding on the subject. The article itself stated that the people in Ukraine are suffering predominantly from Influenza A/H1N1 (although you had a type error, labelling it n1n1, which is not the case). H1N1 has become the predominant flu strain world wide. People die from respiratory complications. This flu is a pain in the butt to get, I suffered through it for 6 days and am still coughing. It hit my sister particularly badly because she has severe asthma. Get the vaccine if you haven't had it yet.
    And no, this is NOT the plague. The plague is not nearly this virulent, and in this day and age could easily be treated with antibiotics.

  4. Lost in translation?

    I work in a field that includes regulatory consulting, process validation, and pharmacoviligance. I'm not an expert in biologics, in virology, or in clinical pathology, but I'm going to give my opinion anyways since most of my time is spent resolving root cause issues for deviations.

    I believe that the N1N1 is either a typo, or a translation issue from cyrillic to english.

    When translating an alphanumeric value, a cyrillic "H" looks like this when converted to English: N. If you want to add some confusion to the mix, there is no direct translation from an english H into a cyrillic character.

    Scroll halfway down this page to see the alphabet translation:

    Therefore, translation of the entire H1N1 identifier from english to cyrillic would likely look like this: H1H1 (the first H would remain untranslated since there is no direct translation of the english H into cyrillic, but the N changes to a cyrillic H).

    Now, lets translate it back (just as a news agency might when reporting a story).

    H1H1 from cyrillic to English = N1N1.

    To clearly understand the communication problem, you have to consider the fact that Ukrainian authorities have labeled the H1N1 virus in cyrillic based upon a direct (or as close to direct as possible) translation from english.

    That gets the Ukrainians to H1H1.

    When Ukrainian authorities report the effects of H1H1 in cyrillic, and it gets translated to english, the result is N1N1, because a cyrillic H is an english N.

    The mistranslation doesn't detract from any of the startling information that reveal that this is a bio-weapon. I just want to help clear the air because at some point it's going to become apparent that N1N1 is probably a mistake.

  5. I know the eyes are actually how people get viruses in their body, more than other places, when people touch their eyes with their fingers. I teach that to kids etc.

    The way I took this article - is that if someone coughs the virus from their cough can absorb into your eyes. Now that I had not heard of before. Maybe I took the article wrong.


  7. How long before this infection crosses the border into Russia? Could this be yet another attack on Russia, this time with an engineered virus, by the Rothschild Gang, whose 'Oligarchs' (i.e. bagmen) were so rudely interrupted in their crimes by Vladimir Putin?

  8. Marlene in the JungleNovember 14, 2009 at 5:28 PM

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  9. Joseph Moshe warned about bioweapons being released in Ukraine.... google & youtube his name.

  10. May be a silly question, but, is the vaccine being given in major sickness areas the same concoction being used in Canada & the U.S.

  11. "In 1919 when the flu killed 40 million people there was this Doctor that visited the many farmers to see if he could help them combat the flu. Many of the farmers and their family had contracted it and many died.

    The doctor came upon this one farmer and to his surprise, everyone was very healthy. When the doctor asked what the farmer was doing that was different the wife replied that she had placed an unpeeled onion in a dish in the rooms of the home, (probably only two rooms back then). The doctor couldn't believe it and asked if he could have one of the onions and place it under the microscope. She gave him one and when he did this, he did find the flu virus in the onion. It obviously absorbed the bacteria, therefore, keeping the family healthy.

    Now, I heard this story from my hairdresser in AZ. She said that several years ago many of her employees were coming down with the flu and so were many of her customers. The next year she placed several bowls with onions around in her shop. To her surprise, none of her staff got sick. It must work. (And no, she is not in the onion business.)

    The moral of the story is, buy some onions and place them in bowls around your home. If you work at a desk, place one or two in your office or under your desk or even on top somewhere. Try it and see what happens. We did it last year and we never got the flu.

    If this helps you and your loved ones from getting sick, all the better. If you do get the flu, it just might be a mild case. Whatever, what have you to lose? Just a few bucks on onions!!!

    Now there is a P. S. to this for I sent it to a friend in Oregon who regularly contributes material to me on health issues. She replied with this most interesting experience about onions:

    Weldon, thanks for the reminder. I don't know about the farmers story...but, I do know that I contracted pneumonia and needless to say I was very ill....I came across an article that said to cut both ends off an onion put one end on a fork and then place the forked end into an empty jar...placing the jar next to the sick patient at night. It said the onion would be black in the morning from the germs...sure enough it happened just like that...the onion was a mess and I began to feel better.

    Another thing I read in the article was that onions and garlic placed around the room saved many from the black plague years ago. They have powerful antibacterial, antiseptic properties."

  12. Tons of freshly shaved garlick in your steaming chicken soup for your soul, with liberal oblast of cayenne, will save you all in a heartbeat.

  13. Bucovina ?! Crap. That plague is on our border (Romania's)

  14. Sounds to me like death from Paraquat, which is a chemical developed as a defoliant. It is one of the deadliest chemicals in the world. Less than one drop can kill a person. It can be absorbed through the skin. It settles in the lungs. It takes a week to kill and nothing can be done to stop it.

  15. Hello there,

    I am a Clinical Nutritionist and I did my research paper in the Medicinal Properties of Garlic (with some emphasis on the Allium family).

    Place the onions and garlic in bowls around your room and house--- but also EAT them every day. Buy only organic ones (local if possible), crush the garlic and let stand 10 minutes to activate enzymes then add to you favorite houmous recipe and do not cook it, just eat it on crackers. if you are worried about garlic breath then eat it in the evening and on weekends.

    Right now with these flu pandemics, we are eating garlic every day as it is an Immune Booster, and we use about 3 cloves per person per day, raw in guacamole and other easy to make recipes.

    Lightly saute your onions and garlic in olive oil and add to each meal. Food works best from the inside, and right now is our BEST defense.

    But also make other significant lifestyle changes such as stop smoking, eliminate alcohol and the big one - sugar. Each of these lower the function of the immune system for hours after ingestion. Right now we need all the FIGHT we have in us, so clean up your diets.

    And exercise too.

    Cheers Everyone

  16. Hi people,

    I am Asian and garlic and onion have been known for ages of their medicinal effects. Green onion eaten raw is great too.
    When I am sick (common cold) my mom would cook rice porridge with lots of green onion and ginger (add a bit off salt and some fine meat, fish... to flavour)It tastes great and I feel much better and get well fast.
    How about having onion placed in your car and your children's snapsack as well. And please keep telling your children to wash their hands and NOT touch their mouth, nose and eyes with their hands.


  18. Unfortunate. I work in a hospital in NYC and we see people streaming in day in and day out to get themselves vaccinated. They bring the elderly and their little kids. Food alone won't save the Ukrainians - regardless how potent. My heart goes out them. I've had to tell family members their loved one is dead. It's so much harder when you lose someone in the prime of their lives.
    If this is a bio-weapon... I hate to think about it. If it was pneumonic plague, it would have been identified as such by the doctors that are investigating.

    How come it did not make it on the news here in the US? I guess they're waiting for this plague to spread before they notify the general public - especially since they don't have a cure or any means to treat it.

  19. To the Jewish annoynimous
    First of all I am not Chinese and do not eat chicchen soup and obviously not smarter than you.
    I am trying to share what works from my culture.
    Nothing is absolute but in this case the onion and stuff will help boost your immune system naturally and they do not cost a lot.

  20. Simple flu mask will not help. Only the best resporator mask can keep a bacteria from going thru the mask. Do not go outside if you know your area is being sprayed. sell all windows and doors and have pleanty of water and food.

  21. There is a product that kills all viruses, germs, bacteria that you can take internally, intravenously or applied to the skin. MMS or Water purification drops have been on the market for 80 years with no bad side effects. Jim Humble rediscovered who to use the chlorine dioxide to kill virus germs, fungus, bacteria, oxidize heavy metals, etc. it is very inexpensive. Shipped every day from product store.
    I have taken it for two years now and feel healthy and energized. I feel like a kid again! Not bad for 80 years old!

  22. IF this were that serious, wouldn't the government limit travel in fear of a world wide pandemic? I'm suspicious considering they don't seem too worried by it. Yes, they have their propaganda machine running 24/7, but if this were seriously that contagious, we would see major actions taken. WHO declared the h1n1 swine flu a pandemic when it clearly was not. Then of course the puppet president of the U.S. Corporation declared a national emergency when it is clearly not. Gives them more room to do what they want under a declared emergency. The deceit know no limits and one thing I know for sure about the parasites, they want us to be in fear.