Ukraine Citizens lined up to buy masks from a Pharmacy - Reports now say, no masks are available anymore in the Ukraine area.
UPDATES TOWARDS BOTTOM OF POST - Continually adding 11/4/09 - 11/5/09 - 11/6/09
As scary as this will sound - the Web bot has gotten a Huge Hit! It was predicted around Oct. 25th "Ill Winds" would begin - this would be something that would cause people to die a horrible death from bleeding in the lungs.
Some kind of mysterious (not mysterious anymore - It IS the PLAGUE) virus is spreading - there are various reports from 3000 dead - though officially from govt. there is only around 60.
Articles and Information about the mysterious virus:
According to unofficial data, "in Ukraine over the past week have died about 1500 people. Как отмечают некоторые врачи, причина — легочная чума. As noted by some doctors, the reason - pneumonic plague. Высокая температура с первого дня, жжение в области грудной клетки, желание пить холодное и тошнота — эти симптомы пугают всех. High temperatures from the first day, a burning sensation in the chest, the desire to drink cold and nausea - all of these symptoms are frightening. Люди умирают за несколько дней». People die in a few days.
Украинские СМИ тем временем сообщили, что вирус быстрыми темпами распространяется по Украине и уже пришел в Одессу: Ukrainian media meanwhile reported that the virus is rapidly spreading in Ukraine and has already arrived in Odessa:
«В Одесской области скончалась женщина. "In the Odessa area woman died. Свиной грипп у нее не подтвердился, скорее всего, причиной стала легочная чума. Swine influenza it has not been confirmed, likely was the cause of pneumonic plague.
Last night from an unknown virus (presumed pneumonic plague) to hurt another 37 thousand and 12 more died Ukrainians. Власти отрицают, что это легочная чума и настаивают на том, что люди умирают от гриппа, пневмонии и ОРЗ. The authorities deny that this is pneumonic plague, and insist that people die from influenza,
From another article:
At this hour a team of experts from the World Health Organization is on the ground in Ukraine, but the search for solid answers about what in the world is going on there has not made much progress. Some sources are insisting that it is just the same old H1N1 swine flu that is found in the rest of the world. Others are speculating that the H1N1 swine flu there has mutated into a much deadlier form. Other sources are absolutely convinced that the H1N1 swine flu simply could not produce the kind of deaths that are being seen right now in Ukraine.
Other early reports indicated that the H1N1 swine flu had been ruled out as the cause for at least some of the deaths in Ukraine.
So just what in the world IS going on over there?
Hopefully the WHO will have some honest answers for us over the next few days. If the number of deaths starts climbing into the hundreds or thousands we may have a truly serious problem on our hands.
Up until now, the H1N1 swine flu "pandemic" has mostly been a bunch of hype. World health authorities tell us that about 500,000 people die from the regular seasonal flu around the world each year, and yet only about 5,700 have died from the H1N1 swine flu worldwide so far.
Hardly something to be worried about.
But if the H1N1 swine flu mutates, or if this outbreak in Ukraine is something else entirely, then we may have something real to worry ourselves about.
the bleeding in the lungs is exactly what killed a lot of folks in the 1918-19 pandemic. See the great book "The Great Influenza: The story of the deadliest pandemic in history ." People would literally fall dead walking across the street. The bleeding out of the lungs was most likely the result of a "cytokine storm" that so increased the vascular permeability in the air sacks that blood filled the lungs. The reason why the mortality in the 1918-1919 pandemic was concentrated in the 18-25 yo cohort was that they had the most active immune systems.
Now I've NO conjecture as to who may have let this loose or why. But I do know that the technology is widespread to replicate the 1918-1919 virus that killed 2-4 million Americans and about 50 million world wide. And folks only traveled by ship in 1918. And there is NO vaccine for this flu type.
Hopefully we will know in a couple of weeks the sequences of the 8 RNA pieces in the Ukraine virus. I'll bet the farm that it is a replicant of the "Spanish Flu." If so, the odds are totally infinitesimal that this was NOT a deliberate bioweapon release.
The above was from the article
Govt. update on Ukraine http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11020902/Ukraine_Spike.html
Ukraine H1N1 Deaths and Hospitalizations Spike Higher
Recombinomics Commentary 21:54
November 2, 2009
15810 Hospital Admissions
235 Intensive Care
The above numbers reflect the latest government update on cases in the Ukraine. They are dramatically higher than those reported in the past few days and raise concerns that the death toll will increase significantly over the next several days.
another article: http://zik.com.ua/en/news/2009/10/29/202374 (this from 29th of Oct. since then thousands more have come down with it - about 1/4 million people)
Western Ukraine was hit by a severe epidemic of unidentified influenza, tentatively diagnosed by doctors as viral pneumonia. The number of dead has climbed dramatically. Doctors advise Western Ukrainians to stay at home and use preventive medication. The first pedestrians wearing face masks have been seen on Lviv streets
Lviv kindergartens and schools have been closed, and the city council is to have its emergency session soon to address the flue outbreak. So far, the information released by the authorities on the epidemic dimensions spread and preventive measures is scarce, causing panic to spread in the city.
All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees(Celsius), slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.
UPDATE - ADDED 5:20PM 11/3/09
Widely reported around the city of Keiv - aircraft were spraying substances in the air on the 30th of October (the day the mysterious virus began there) - I would say this is DEFINITELY "ILL WINDS"!
Link to Panic in Ukraine article
Authorities in Kiev, Ukraine, deny spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city.
The office of Emergency Response in the district of Desniansko, Kiev, are tonight (30th Oct.) strongly refuting reports that light aircraft were spraying a substance over the city intended to counter a “swine flu pandemic” in Ukraine.
It was reported that light aircraft were seen over the Forest market area of the city (close to the Forest metro station) and they were spraying an aerosol substance intended to “counter swine flu”, this of course would constitute forced medication of the population.
The editors of local newspapers in Kiev received dozens of phone calls from concerned residents and shop owners in the Forest market area of the city reporting they had observed several light airplanes circling in the sky during the day spraying an unidentified aerosol into the atmosphere.
Retailers and local business people reported they were advised to “stay indoors” during the day by local authorities.
Local newspapers contacted government administrators in Kiev and were told that “no permission had been granted today (30th Oct.) for small aviation aircraft to fly within the city limits”. Also local FM radio stations in Kiev were regularly refuting the reports during broadcasts today, apparently under duress from local authorities.
Reports of helicopters and light airplanes spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil, and other cities throughout Ukraine are tonight flooding online forums and websites, hundreds of people have verified the reports with their own eye-witness accounts.
Restricted Travel in Ukraine now - all schools and all public meetings - everything is shut down
A Microbiologist warned in August that Baxter planned on releasing a terrible virus in Ukraine he was arrested after he warned the government, he planned on going public with the information.
Ukraine Residents are saying Russia is the one who has released the plague upon them. Doctors are finding the lungs of the victims are black. Officials are now saying it is a previously unknown form of the plague! They are saying the mortality rate is 100%!
link to article: http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/11/01/11153.shtml
On the other hand, Ukrainian media reported that the virus is rapidly spreading in Ukraine and has already reached Odessa:
"1 woman died in the area of Odessa. Swine influenza has not been confirmed, most likely pneumonic plague was the cause.
Odessa and the region is already infected, most likely, is mutated pneumonic plague ", - said one of the doctors of private clinics in Odessa.
"The panic that spreads through the city, is so great that people are willing to sit at home even on just bread and water. Lack of gauze dressings in the city and surrounding areas - is just the beginning, and there is no elementary necessary ascorbic acid and inhalers.
Meanwhile, the first officially recorded death is because of pneumonic plague, and believe me in reality the are much more, "- says the Odessa physician.
All the doctors throughout Ukraine say that this is pneumonic plague.
"I have met with friends from the western Ukraine, the doctors say that the lungs of the dead were black. And that, perhaps this is not influenza but pneumonic plague. Well, if this is indeed a plague, then the news won't mention it for now, and certainly - it's 100% death (according to the U.S. for 1950-1994 - 41%, but the American health care, of course, not Ukrainian, and American doctors knew that they are dealing with a plague - KC).
UPDATE 11/4/09 9:47PM
The Health Ministry said today that the number of flu patients in the country has risen to 450,000, although it has not been determined how many of those people are suffering from swine flu. Only two days ago, the ministry had said some 255,000 Ukrainians had registered with public health authorities as suffering from the flu, among them 83,000 children.
Urging its citizens not to panic, Ukraine closed the nation's schools for three weeks to avoid the spread of flu and banned large public gatherings.
In parts of Russia, local authorities have introduced a so-called "mask regime" to prevent the spread of flu.
RFE/RL's Russian Service reports that in the Khabarovsk region in Russia's Far East, all theater and cinema visitors are obliged to wear surgical masks. So are workers at shop counters and public transportation employees.
The same regulation was introduced in Russia's Baikal region – Zabaikalye – with a fine of 500 rubles ($17) for anyone caught ignoring the rules.
Demand for gauze masks have soared among popular belief that they can help prevent infection. One factory, in Gornji Milanovac, is making some 60,000 masks a day by working around-the-clock and already has advance orders for all its production through the end of this year.
**Plain gauze mask will Do Nothing - it has to be a P100 - 95 mask/filter to be protected against breathing in viral micros in the air*** The authorities and medical personnel should be informing the people this!**
UPDATE: 11/5/09 7:16AMNovember 4, 2009
It is quite possible that what they are really dealing with is the Pnumonic Plague or black death. There are outbreaks all over Romania now, however they will not give any details on the infection and are still insisting that it is all swine flu. My bravo sierra detector is going off big time. What I am seeing here in Romania and getting reports of in Ukraine, poland, Bulgaria, and Hungary is afast moving disease. If is is the black death, you should be concerned, when the black death wiped out 25% of Europe it took 4 years before the plague subsided. It is virulent however it does NOT burn itself out quickly. Sounds like I need some thieves oil.
It is still early and details are sketchy, but the Romanian authorities and the press here are definitely covering something up.
UPDATE 11/5/09 7:39AM
EU Must Help Ukraine Fight Flu
Deputy Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer told Reuters that Warsaw was awaiting a reply from Brussels, and said he feared the epidemic could spread rapidly in Eastern Europe.
"Poland has already organized quite reasonable help for Ukraine, but in a split second we will see swine flu in Belarus, we are already hearing something about Romania," he said.
Shipments of medicine and medical equipment have been leaving Poland for Ukraine in recent days. A growing number of swine-flu cases have also been reported in Germany and Slovakia, which likewise share borders with Poland.
UPDATE 11/5/09 11:46AM
WHO Continues to Deceive - Says Ukraine - H1N1
The World Health Organization (WHO) is continuing to deceive the world by stating sweeping assumptions about the Ukraine pandemic. Despite huge differences in transmission and deaths rates, the agency stated Tuesday that it was valid to assume that most of the cases of influenza reportedly combing through the Ukraine were caused by the pandemic A(H1N1) virus.
There is very little left to be respected of the WHO. After months of using junk science and contradictions to conceal actual swine flu cases, they are now launching phase two of their deceptive operation: Convince the world that a more lethal strain of flu is still the same H1N1 virus.
Infectious disease expert Dr. Donald Lau explained that the chances of the Ukrainian pandemic being the same H1N1 virus that has infected the world are very low. “The statistical probability of this being the same H1N1 virus are infinitesimally small.” Dr. Lau stated that the high viral transmission rates are extremely unusual for H1N1 and there is almost certainly some type of new virus, or a lethal recombination that has occurred.
Dr. Lau speculated that the Ukraine government or the WHO may be withholding and/or suppressing information for some unknown reason. “There must have been some misrepresentation of actual deaths versus infection rates.” Dr. Lau has estimated the probable fatality rate of this new virus to be close to 0.5 percent which is astronomically higher than the H1N1 virus in any part of the world.
Ukrainian authorities on Sunday launched an urgent appeal for help from world powers after it imposed drastic measures to tackle a sudden surge of flu-like illness in the country.
Almost 500,000 cases of influenza and acute respiratory illness have been reported, according to approximate but official Ukrainian figures cited by the WHO.
UPDATE 11/5/09 12:09pm EST
Ukraine Presidential Address to Citizens
Please see above link to read the address to the people - The President there is saying it is the H1N1 - but stronger and changed from what the rest of the world has and has asked for assistance from the UN.
Why is it governments lie to the people? When doctors are saying it IS the Plague - all the symptoms of it and the autopsies are proving it.
UPDATE - 11/5/09 12:15PM
CASES HAVE DOUBLED
Reported Cases in Ukraine Double in Two Days
Recombinomics Commentary 14:34
November 4, 2009
The above numbers are from the latest update from Ukraine. The number of infected patients has almost doubled to just under ½ million, compared to the report two days ago (see map). Hospitalized patients also have spiked higher, to 24K from 15K. ICU cases are not listed, but 60 on ventilators are. However, most (37) of those on ventilators are Chernivisti Oblast, but Lviv, which has the most fatalities and cases, has none, suggesting the data is incomplete or there are significant shortages of ventilators. The number of dead has risen to 81, but media reports describe additional fatalities, include those in the Kiev Oblast.
The explosion of cases again raises concerns that the number of fatalities is significantly higher than the 81 listed. Media reports have described an equal number of pneumonia fatalities which were not considered flu related. The basis of these exclusions remains unclear. Similarly, anecdotal reports suggest the number of fatalities is markedly higher than the 81 in the table.
The rapid rise in reported infections, hospitalizations, and deaths in the past few days raise concerns that the virus is transmitting very efficiently. Spikes in cases have been reported throughout the northern hemisphere, but the spike in fatalities and the frequency in hemorrhagic cases in Ukraine have raised concerns.
Earlier media reports suggest that an update by WHO might be issued today and include preliminary analysis of samples sent to Mill Hill in London.
Daily updates on the rapidly evolving situation in Ukraine, including sequence analysis, would be useful.
UPDATE 11/5/09 1:14PM EST
96 Ukrainians died from flu
Chairwoman of the Committee of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on Health issues Tatiana Bahteeva said at the session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine that 96 people died from flu and its complications in Ukraine.
According to an UNIAN correspondent, in accordance with her words, among people, who died, there are 6 doctors, 7 pregnant women and 9 children.
*We are suppose to believe only 96 people have died? When inside sources are saying it is A LOT more? They have admitted 6 doctors have died - a report earlier (linked above) said 10% of the health care workers in the Ukraine were affected - that was 2 days ago.*
UPDATE: 11/5/09 2:15PM
Kirovohrad region became next to impose quarantine
Today at 16:50 | Ukrainian News
The Kirovohrad region has imposed quarantine because cases of influenza and other acute respiratory viral infections have almost reached the epidemic threshold, according toKirovohrad regional administration website.
The Kirovohrad region's Governor Volodymyr Movchan signed the relevant directive on Nov. 4.
6, 914 people have been infected in Kirovohrad region (357 of them have been hospitalized) since Oct. 29, according to the Health Ministry, .
The Cabinet of Ministers imposed quarantine in nine regions on Oct. 30 because of the epidemic of the H1N1 influenza.
Ukraine's chief sanitary doctor Oleksandr Bilovol forecasted on Nov. 4 that quarantine would soon be introduced in the Vinnytsia, Kyiv, Odesa, Poltava, and Chernihiv regions after they reach the epidemic threshold for influenza and acute respiratory viral infections.
UPDATE 11/5/09 2:26PM EST
Update: more death, illness
Today at 14:10 | (Wire reports)
Ukraine’s Health Ministry on Nov. 5 said the death toll of patients with flu-related and acute respiratory illnesses (ARI) had jumped to 95.
Deputy Health Minister Zinoviy Mytnik said told journalists during a press briefing that a total of 633, 877 cases of flu-related and ARI have been registered from Oct. 29 through Nov. 5.
Mytnik said 15 of 31 patient samples sent to London for laboratory analysis tested positive for the H1N1, or swine flu, virus.
Meanwhile, over 600 medical workers in Kyiv have fallen sick with the flue and acute respiratory illnesses, according to Kyiv deputy Mayor Iryna Kilchitskaya, who on Nov. 5 told a daily Kyiv newspaper that 200 of the afflicted are doctors.
In a related story, Ihor Pokanevych, head of the WHO office in Kyiv, told Deutsche Welle on Nov. 5 that in Ukraine, as in the rest of the world, there will be three waves of the swine flu virus: the first – which Ukraine is experiencing now, the second – in the spring, and the third – during the autumn of 2010.
Pokanevych noted that the current pandemic is complicated to sort out because it involves three strains of flu virus: two seasonal strains [of the Brisbane] flu and the swine flu, which as a result could lead the virus to mutate into a still more virulent, new virus.
UPDATE 11/6/09 7:25AM EST
Swine Flu Spreading in Ukraine Army
President of Ukraine Victor Yushchenko said that now 3967 people among military men are registered with viral diseases.
Among those people, who fell ill – 190 out of them have pneumonia and 4 people have flu A/H1N1.
I have noticed the govt there are saying those with the plague have pneumonia - so what the above means to me, is the plague is spreading through the military now.
3 out of 14 people who fell ill with swine flu died – head sanitary inspector
Head sanitary inspector of Ukraine Oleksandr Bilovol says that 3 people out of 14 people who fell ill with swine flu died in Ukraine. According to an UNIAN correspondent, O. Bilovol said this today at the conference call of Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko with leaders of regions concerning issues of prevention of spreading of infectious diseases.
The above article is from 2 days ago - the Head Inspector - is the same one, who has said there is no Unusual problem of the Swine Flu in Ukraine.
Why the Hell is MSM not saying a Word about this? Not online and not on T.V?! Nothing - nada - can anyone find Anything from MSM about this?
I researched about the Plague's history and how people survived it.
The Black Death
I did not realize the difference between the Bubonic Plague and the Pneumonic Plague - but I found out at the above link. I wanted to find out how people had survived the Plague when it had spread before.
First the Bubonic Plague was the skin with wounds that would turn black - thus called the Black Death. 50% of the people who got the Bubonic Plague lived. The Pneumonic Plague is of the lungs and only 10% of those people lived who got it. I could not find anything special those 10% did, but I am going to continue searching. The reason the Pneumonic Plague spread fast, is because it goes through the air as people breath in and out or cough. The Bubonic Plague, people had to actually touch the wounds to get the virus. If this is the Pneumonic Plague as the doctors say it is in the Ukraine, I believe finding out everything possible to survive it is a very good idea (which I am sure everyone agrees with that). I will insert all things I find about what people need to do, for the best chance of survival.
I also believe at some point the media will have to acknowledge what is going on there.
Facts about the Plague from the government.
On the site, interesting enough, they say it can be sprayed, so it could be used for terrorism. There were many reports of spraying being done the day before the outbreak.
From information on U.S. govt. website.
Depending on circumstances, these forms may occur separately or in combination:Pneumonic plague occurs when Y. pestis infects the lungs. This type of plaguecan spread from person to person through the air. Transmission can take placeif someone breathes in aerosolized bacteria, which could happen in a bioterrorist
Now, I have a question to everyone... would it really hurt to have 3M permanent half mask with filters to protect yourself and family members? Spending a few dollars (less than $20) for a mask - and getting the P100 filters for it (hard case ones), what is wrong with that? As I see it - better to be prepared ahead of time - before it is needed - than to wait and can't get something when it is needed.
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I encourage everyone to do searches on masks and prices and GET ONE from some where!
I purchased 3 cases of the P100 Hard Case filters, in case of a long duration of need besides the masks. *On 11/5/09, I inquired and found out they have 50 masks in stock*.
I firmly believe having a mask will be a very valuable item in the future.
When this starts spreading more and MSM has to finally mention it - A mask will be the hottest commodity around - but don't expect to be able to get one easily. This last spring (first H1N1 hype) - 3M mask were on back order on all websites I searched.
No, I am not being hyper about this - I am only being smart about it - in our world today - things spread fast..... better to be prepared ahead of time.
More Information regarding Bot Hit:
The bot said it would be a few days of absolute torture to people and then they would die - this virus will sweep around the world - with ultimately 2 billion people dying - Also remember this may be what the bot has predicted for affecting meat too - somehow - and many people will die from eating the tainted meat of animals. It will be realized late - and people will not be able to eat any meat in the future. (I know that all this seems impossible and hard to imagine). I sincerely hope the rest of the bots prediction does not come true.
I will continue to update the information as I find it.