Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Dr. Taubenberger who has worked on recreating the 1918 Spanish Flu is saying found in lungs in Autopsies 12/08/09 11:45am

Dr. Taubenberger who has worked on recreating the 1918 Spanish Flu is saying found in lungs in Autopsies in New York

The above is linked to an Examiner article by Victoria Nicks

I find the little circle going there is very interesting. Let me explain, I have been trying as much as possible to follow a trail, it seems to be coming in a circle.

UPDATE 12/17/09 - Link to Victoria Nicks article -http://ww.examiner.com/x-29228-LA-Health-Technology-Examiner~y2009m12d7-NIH-Bulletin-says-New-York-swine-flu-victim-autopsies-show-lung-damage-similar--to-1918-Spanish-flu

I encourage people to read hers - to she how she references Dr. Taubenberger and she then links to Niman's site as the source of information of the "mutation".
There was no questioning of why a 6 month delay, besides not bringing up Dr. Taubenberger is most likely the reason the Swine Flu is going around the world in the first place. (End of Update 12/17/09)

First, understand almost every Examiner Swine Flu piece is written by Victoria Nicks.

Who is Victoria Nicks? She is an Air Force Military Veteran.

She is a Freelance writer, who seems to have connections and LOVES to Promote ONE Site OVER ALL OTHERS - She Loves to Profile Henry Niman and Recombinomics. She loves to write all about mutations. Also she wrote a book about the Swine Flu Vaccine and what ingredients are in it. I have not read the book - but it seems to be for the vaccine, it seems to give info, so people won't be scared of it. When she has directly written about the vaccine, she says any side effects are mild.

Here she writes how pregnant women should get vaccinated

Here she writes the very simple differences of the seasonal flu vaccine compared to the Swine flu vaccine and states what the CDC Recommends.

Here she writes about the ingredients in the Swine Flu vaccine - says hardly any mercury AND Says CDC is recommending pregnant women to get vaccinated.

Here she basically recommends the Vaccine for Babies!

from her above article:
The H1N1 vaccine for babies is manufactured by Sanofi Pasteur, Inc. The H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine side effects are expected to be minimal, despite some of the ingredients.

She seems to have an IN with the Dr. Taubenberger, who may be directly responsible for what is happening, by him recreating the Spanish Flu - but she has a Definite IN with Henry Niman.

I am going to say this, we are being filled with disinformation - as if the Bacterial Pneumonia has been there all along and the H1N1 is what is causing it. Can viral REALLY go into something Bacterial. OR is it a spin saying there has been Bacterial Pneumonia previously, so no one needs to get all excited about any reports of spraying and then Bacterial Pneumonia afterwards?

So, considering the sources are EX Military - The Doctor WHO most likely helped Create what is going around AND a man who has been well embedded with Institutes - Scripp Institute, Harvard University and those have worked WITH Rockefeller Institute - AND has the INSIDE of the Virus "mutations" from WHO. Henry Niman, Firmly believes in vaccines and he recombines things for vaccines to be made from them. Also MANY others have raised doubts as I have found about Mr. Niman previously, as I have been researching him.

I believe we are being led down a lane that certain Higher people want us to go down.

BUT I will LOOK AT EVERYTHING CRITICALLY - Because I am figuring out, how the Disinfo works - So, Do I Seriously believe the H1N1 mutates to Bacterial Pneumonia or is that part of a "move along, nothing to see here - there have been no sprayings and the plague afterwards?"

Read things Critically! Think about who is making the statements - THEN research their history.

Parts from Article linked in the headline:

The scientists reviewed autopsy reports, hospital records and other clinical data from 34 people who died of 2009 H1N1 influenza infection between May 15 and July 9, 2009. All but two of the deaths occurred in New York City.

The team was led by James R. Gill, M.D., of the New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner and New York University School of Medicine, and Jeffery K. Taubenberger, M.D., Ph.D., of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) at NIH. The findings are reported in the Archives of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine, now available online and scheduled to appear in the February 2010 print issue.

One other question - if these are from autopsies from May and July WHY is it taking 6 MONTHS for the information to all of a sudden come out? When there seems to be information about sprayings and then bacterial pneumonia. They are all of a sudden releasing this info that H1N1 Swine flu is causing it? ALSO considering Ukraine deaths did NOT Test Positive for H1N1 but had bacterial pneumonia!

Just a few things to think about, as you read these various articles.


  1. I think there is an important distinction to be made here, notably as to what is the precise nature of whatever claims Taubenberger is purported to have made or not to have made. The headline of the Examiner piece distinctly says, (and I capitalize for emphasis):

    NIH Bulletin says New York swine flu victim autopsies show lung damage SIMILAR to 1918 Spanish flu

    SIMILAR is a comparative term that is used elsewhere in this article, ostensibly to qualify such forensic information as it offers only to an extent of SIMILARITY to Spanish Flu. Nowhere in this piece do I find any conclusive statement by its redoubtable author, or by the mad scientist Taubenberger, to an effect of conclusively identifying the culprit from the studies TO BE, as opposed to BE LIKE, the Spanish Flu of 1918.

    The SIMILARITY of the SYMPTOMOLOGY is already well established, BIG DEAL, we already knew this. The main faults I see with this obvious fluff piece are its overall redundancy and its provision, intended or otherwise, of near perfect cover for Taubenberger. As far as the time lag in publicizing these predictable results goes, does anyone believe for a second that the mad scientist would EVER actually come out and positively ID the sudden reappearance of a monster he himself recreated, unless from his own deathbed? -with his last dying, Spanish Flu ridden, bacterially pneumonic breath?

  2. The "shocking" NIH report is also newly referenced here, in a "similar" mode of redundancy (two stars ** for the redundant graphics) -


  3. When searching for major perpetrators, it's always helpful to connect a name to a face. In this case, we find a couple of cherubic teddy bears, right out of a new Disney movie...(via Fort Detrick) -


    (Loads of good background at this page)

  4. Now it's becoming mainstream - H1N1 and Pneumonia are one in the same (for some people):

    H1N1 virus attacks deep into the lungsBy Stephanie Smith, CNN Medical Producer
    December 8, 2009 4:18 p.m. EST

    New York (CNN) -- In the rare cases when the H1N1 virus kills, scientists have found, it penetrates deep into the lungs, creating widespread damage -- a pattern similar to what killed millions during previous flu pandemics in 1918 and 1957.

    The New York Office of Chief Medical Examiner examined medical records, autopsy reports and microscopic slides of 34 people with H1N1 who died between May 15 and July 9, 2009, during the early days of the pandemic.

    The report found that among those deaths, inflammation and damage in the lungs extended all the way to the alveoli, tiny sacs at the farthest end of the lungs' airways.

    "Generally, flu stays in the upper airways," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. "What this shows is clearly this virus has capability of infecting and causing inflammation and destruction of cells from the trachea, all the way down into smaller cells of the lungs.

    "The cells of the lung get directly attacked by the virus," said Fauci.

    The damage appears in computerized scans as opaque patches that normally would not appear in the lungs, and which obstruct lung function.

    Get complete coverage of H1N1 -- Fighting the flu

    Echoing previous reports, the study, published online in the Archives of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, also revealed that 91 percent of those who died were people with underlying health problems, and most occurred in people between 25 and 49 years old.

    More than half of the deaths were caused by bacterial pneumonia.

    "The secondary bacterial infection evokes inflammation," said Dr. William Schaffner, professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. "It socks it in the lung and all of a sudden the lung as an organ can't do its principal job."

    Obesity was a factor in 72 percent of H1N1 deaths, a finding that has caused concern among infectious disease experts.

    "That was a striking finding," said Schaffner. "It contributes in a very material way to what we know about risks for a severe outcome with H1N1 infection. We are keeping an eye on obesity as a risk factor for H1N1 death."

    The study gives interesting insight into the mechanism behind H1N1 deaths, but will not change the current response to the virus, said Fauci.


  5. I thought they were given 15 million to come up with a treatment not a disease that has no treatment.

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